So for those reasons I don't believe the standards are too high the amount of game cameras out on the landscape to record images department alone through contracts had over 150 throughout the state biologists go through various deer yards throughout the year. Residents Report Mountain Lion Sighting By Elysia Rodriguez Published August 11, 2015 A southern New Hampshire neighborhood believes a mountain lion is roaming the woods near their homes. By, March 2023 Fund Drive Rules and Regulations, Persons with disabilities who need assistance accessing NHPR's FCC public files, please contact us at publicfile@nhpr.org. We had six copies printed out each. Each person had their own copy and now it was identify the trees the species of tree matched. Does not test random Scouts. Mountain Lions | Wildlife | New Hampshire Fish and Game Department For all the men out there that don't realize it. And now that everyone and their mother has a remote camera in their back yard its just so, so unlikely that there are resident, breeding mountain lions in New England that are living invisibly among us, he says, Its become Big Foot.. How to Report a Possible Mountain Lion Sighting. Good morning guys. New Hampshire Public Radio | I have no doubt that there are mountain lion roaming New Hampshire. Mountain Lions | Wildlife | New Hampshire Fish and Game Department Pat ruse and he was sampling doing DNA samples from cats in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. Let's talk to Mike in Webster. I wanted to get your thoughts on the mystique of the mountain lion start with you Rick. The second one was not only fresh but when I actually put my hand on it it was you know smelled like cat and I it's there's no denying a fresh mountain lions get if you can tell it every story that KOAT. Michael Brindley is our program manager our producers our Jessica Hunt and Christina Phillips and our theme music was composed by Bob Lord. A 140-pound male mountain lion was hit by a car and killed in 2011 in Milford, Connecticut. Peter Biello: And Carl before you continue I think Patrick Tate just give me a second. About two years ago I was at the Laconia airport on the way home from the airport and there's a big lake on one side called Lily Pond. Chartered 1973; Member of District 44-H; . We actually have the largest subspecies of bobcat in the northern part of our state which they can get up to 40 and over 40 pounds which looks like an 80 pound the animal to visually and quite large. Incredible sighting and I called him the fish and game and they immediately sent me to a website to look at all the bobcat pictures. But if people are still seeing mountain lions, why is the state and federal government seeking to COVER IT UP!? Peter Biello: This is NHK PR Good morning and HP are summer car raffle is back and now's the time to get your early bird tickets. So let's let's go to the phones. Sort of dropped onto the SD card of a camera he'd set up out in the wild. Fish and Wildlife Service decided all of the cougars, pumas, and mountain lions in the country are actually the same species, and that species hasnt had a breeding population anywhere near the Northeast for at least 70 years. And I can recall its information but I can't confirm or verify anything. And it was you know 10 or 12 people saw it all at once. There is some information that suggests that it spent a portion of its time in Massachusetts near the Claiborne reservoir. Theres tracks everywhere. They just end up in these places. NH Wildlife News and Info | NH Wildlife I have one that's more elaborate than that. Sandy Hodskins, owner of West Meadow Farm in Bradford, New Hampshire, took time from shoveling Wednesday to enjoy the snow with her horse, West Wind. That's why we always go back to the physical evidence to support what they're reporting. Mountain lions (especially males) have incredibly large ranges that they defend from rivals. So I just throwing that out there it's interesting. He studied Politics and Spanish at Bates College, and before reporting was variously employed as a Spanish teacher, farmer, bicycle mechanic, ski coach, research assistant, a wilderness trip leader and a technical supporter. So one thing I'd point out is we've been talking about situations with no evidence a number of them come in with photographs and yet what they fit what they description of the animal they saw and by the way I got a picture of what I saw. 19 Second when I when they did forward it from Wyoming to to Michigan you know this was coming right from sample 18 and 19 had no remarkable differences from known mountain lions from Michigan or Wyoming. Caller: Well I think Patrick I recognized your name. Sue Morse: First and foremost if you have color or if you could see details of color look at the front of the face around the Pumas muzzle the muzzle itself is pure white. OK. I didn't see him online. How to Report a Possible Mountain Lion Sighting. Mountain lions can be found throughout Arizona, and data suggests the populations are not only stable, but growing. Caller: I have yeah. 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. You know you have to have a license and it's hard to get that license a license to own a mountain lion. Early in the morning. They don't know the direction they're going. The states never denied mountain lions are here, and theyve never admitted mountain lions are here. Peter Biello: Yeah well what do you think Pat is. But if you do if you think you're looking at a wild Puma their tail is very thick and especially in the winter is very thick and ponderous looking. So here in New Hampshire when a person turns in something that the Department believes is possible mountain lion and believes it should be investigated further. Patrick Tate: Exactly I was gonna bring that up juvenile male of. Were there any differences between these two that we could have noticed right off. As wildlife biologists, wed be fascinated to say 'look look what was found in our state.'. Information online ad an age student loans dawg. Peter Biello: So a little bit of nostalgia maybe for it for a better world embodied in the mountain lion. Sam Evans-Brown: Well and I think and the last takeaway here is everyone I think probably agrees that any possible sightings that have been seen. So take care of this problem. Want to report a Mountain Lion sighting in New Hampshire? I believe I saw one that's fine and I'm not looking for an immediate story. He shifted gears in 2016 and began producing Outside/In, a podcast and radio show about the natural world and how we use it. His work has won him several awards, including two regional Edward R. Murrow awards, one national Murrow, and the Overseas Press Club of America's award for best environmental reporting in any medium. And boy it was big it had to be at least 200 pounds the thing was you and and it just made a little bit of noise and it was gone. I live pretty much on the town line of Greenfield just a couple of miles down in the Greenfield. John is calling from Bennington. You know interactions are pretty unusual. Peter Biello: From New Hampshire Public Radio I'm Peter Biello in for Lark Knoy and this is the exchange. Tell us your story. We're not in the woods. We've met Fish and Game's BURDEN OF PROOF. What do you think that. They kill big animals. GAP MOUNTAIN LIONS CLUB Fitzwilliam, New Hampshire (USA) District 44-N . 10 things to do in NH this weekend: Dartmouth Dance, Hamilton De Holanda & more, Turkish restaurant in the Upper Valley aims to help those affected by recent earthquakes, RFK Jr. tells NH crowd hes considering a presidential run, Epping woman pleads guilty to threatening Michigan election official in 2020. So so do what you can get to do what you can to get proof. Known to exist in the state for over well over a hundred years. Rick van de Poll: Well the mountain lion of course has been sort of an enigma in the wildlife suite for years and years. Sam Evans-Brown: And second the evidence required is is you know pretty pretty tough to gather. Peter Biello: Well hey Rob. David Erler says some of them probably have. Patrick Tate: So I'm not sure what subspecies of cat they're using to differentiate by those markings but once she was describing the White other face in the black. Share. Deer Bear Moose Grey Wolf Coyote Foxes Fisher Mountain Lion NH Wildlife History. Rick van de Poll: Oh yeah absolutely. Well just that I have evidence and it was not it was denied by fishing game at the time and I you know there's I don't need to prove to anybody that I saw one just like some of your callers said okay. Rick van de Poll: Rick your thoughts. John you're on the air. The supervisor that hired me in the game division in October of 1978 passed on to me this whole big folder of mountain lion information and sightings going back probably a couple decades. Support for an age PR comes from you our listeners. County road and all of a sudden a big cat jumps out of the woods over a stone wall stood in the middle of the dirt road as I rode towards it. We want answers. Peter Biello: This is the exchange on an PR. Windham Life and Times - November 15, 2019 Pat humans people leave deer carcasses up in trees. So I would put this in the category of sort of like shark attacks right. The term is because mascots notwithstanding right that they're referred to with a lot of different terms and sometimes they can be confused with a lot of different terms. Fish and Game then deny the evidence. Yes and you want to share what you learned. Peter Biello: Let's go to Mike in Epping. So here we have you know a very qualified biologist who who found a print took a plaster cast found a scat send it to a university. Why do people keep seeing mountain lions (which aren't here) but not So it's six months of a large large predatory animal that moves great distances on the landscape that is not known if it went northeast west Salt and how many circles it did. How far were you from this cat. So maybe a good pet for you but not for your neighbor if you just stop by unannounced. Our guests today Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife biologist Sam Evans Brown host of an HP podcast outside in. Tim Yeah. So that did it for me. Now Bobcat is a completely different species. Well let me ask maybe Pat and Rick about this. The females disperse a shorter range and once they find a vacant home range they stay in that location and live there. Since 1917, Lions clubs have offered people the opportunity to give something back to their communities. On Oct. 10, he gave a slide talk called "Wild Cats of New Hampshire," which included the bobcat and the lynx. Administrative Links. So they're scary. Ive received pictures of dogs at odd angles, says Tate. Patrick Tate: I would say well when social media first started they picked up the hoaxes became much more prevalent in the last four or five years hoaxes have died down completely. Mountain Lion Population (In Each U.S. State) - Wildlife Informer Patrick Tate: I've had hunters hang deer carcasses forbidding wildlife entries. From came from out west they tracked it all the way back to the Black Hills in the Dakotas. There are corollaries in other states. However if if and when it does happen it takes up a lot of resources looking at that situation and identifying what's going on because when you start out you don't know it's a hoax. Caller: And the more I thought about it the color of it it was definitely not a bobcat. So it is possible to see male Mountain lions roam into the northeast - there was one hit by a car in CT a number of years back - but we don't have a breeding population of Mountain lions in New England. Can we go to the site. Mountain lion or cat running across. And listeners this has been a lively conversation we're sorry we didn't get to all the the e-mailed comments and the phone calls your stories are appreciated even if we didn't get a chance to hear them today. And they used to be this whole list of the different subspecies of mountain lion and it has since been reduced to just to the North American and the South American. So what I'm getting back is the verifying and confirming of evidence what that was not there. Peter Biello: We got an e-mail question from Robert in Epsom who asks are sightings or encounters with these big cats less dangerous here where they're passing through than out west where those same mountain lines might be establishing territory Rick. Lions Clubs Int'l Links: LionNet NH Links 2011 -2012 . By Eric Orff. And they asked me about the tail which I just did not remember that tail out of that whole experience. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests - AP NEWS Phone number 1 800. Give us a call if you have a question or comments or story about perhaps seeing a mountain lion here in New Hampshire. 1,470 likes. Through DNA they approximate area in the United States or North America where I was born. Just one quick point I think I think when we we talk about these conspiracy theories the real story is that fish and game is an agency that that is short on budget and staff. Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife Biologist thanks very much for being here this morning really appreciate it. Sam Evans-Brown: Well first I want to sort of explain why what the theory is but then also throw a bit of cold water on it because I don't think there's much much logic behind it but essentially is that if fish and game were to acknowledge that there was a population of Mount lions in the state there's a chance that something like a listing under the federal Endangered Species Act might happen and then there'd be you know some they'd have to put a plan in place to protect the species there'd be you know restrictions put on development. The American Lion The Saber tooth Tiger and this was the one that survived. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. If youve got photo trap evidence of a Mountain Lion, send it in, and we'll send it along to the appropriate state or federal agency! I'm Peter Biello. The engineers Dan Colgan our senior producer is Allan Grimm. And a lot of people around the county airport have seen a lot of pilots coming in said they saw huge. What kind of animal is that. Mountain Lions in New Hampshire-Fact or Fiction - YouTube They used to roam the entire continent, but have become extinct in most US states. I'm gonna send you a letter that we researched this report and we spoke with those labs and the lab wrote in their letter to us that they could only say that Scott contained white Tea Party fur and that they could not say what deposited the scout because it's far too degraded listeners we'd love to hear from you about your mountain lion sightings if you have seen one or if you if you think you have give us a call we'd love to hear your story 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Current conditions in New Hampshire would support a mountain lion, according to Tate, as forests have returned, allowing for prey species to become more prevalent. Sam. Now that to me seemed to indicate that they had done the secondary workup that in my opinion proved the existence of probably a disperse or possibly from South Dakota like the one in 2011. They sent it already. About Us Media Kit Calendar of Events Volunteer Visit Learn Events Membership Support Your Visit BUY TICKETS Know Before You Go Directions and Information Our Animals Live Animal Exhibit Trail Hours and Admission Calendar of Events I saw that had this giant the bobcat had this giant sweeping which is John Bobcat don't have big sweeping tails. Patrick Tate: It's wow interesting that you brought this up because I've had people report I saw cardamom. Caller: Are probably. The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. The 17-year-old Kiger mustang mare was born in Bend, Oregon, said Hodskins, who got her . Thanks very much. Thanks for calling. They absolutely do. Patrick Tate: It became a very interesting investigation over time because it started becoming. Women control our lives. So one thing I'll add. The Connecticut Mountain Lion is the best documented wild Mountain Lion in New England. I mean it wasn't your idea. As far as I could tell there was a positive DNA sequence coming from the scat sample Patrick. Sunny today high temperatures low to mid 80s it'll be clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s for tomorrow sunshine with high temperatures mid to upper 80s. 'Like we did as kids': Horse makes snow angels with her owner in New Today, their range stretches from the Yukon Territory in Canada along the western coast of the United States, all the way to the Southern Andes in Chile. Patrick Tate: I've from all the situations I've read and learned about wildlife. We have evidence and as biologists we would find it quite exciting to find that evidence of one in the state. But also I think it proves the opposite point which is that sometimes they're pretty secretive because all the way from Minnesota where the where was the first time was picked up on a game camera to New York. And I saw you cat about four feet long from nose to tail come across from the water across the road and just leap over a six foot perimeter fence in a single bound. Peter Biello: Hmm. Kyle I think about Rick Tate wants to jump in here. The western mountain lion lives in a more of a grassland open area now so to blend in with a very lighted situation here in the Northeast we are very shadowy dark situation because of the forest and our cats wear a darker brownish reddish color than what they were and they were also smaller than what the western mountain lion is. And the cougar embodies that. And to anyone listening I would just say you know fishing game who wants proof right. Caller: Oh hi. And as the biologist who's gonna stand on this and if I'm going to say this is a proven picture I need to be able to stand on it so soundly and have the evidence so I going to go through it with a fine tooth comb kept picking pieces apart trying to answer these pieces. Theres a project called the Cougar Network that tracks verified sightings, and they are all around us: Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, New York and New Brunswick have all had verified sightings over the past 20 years or so. Why are there so many false positives? Saddleback Mountain Lions It's unfortunate that that kind of thing happens as often as it does. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. And what was really remarkable about the whole thing was I was maybe a half mile down on all buildings. N.H. Absolutely. I'm sorry go ahead you're on the air. I hope she's listening and she had spoke to a lot of different people ended up having a couple of sightings of her alone without sort of by accident. We'd love to have you in the queue. And maybe it's a no holds barred nostalgia for a better world a wild or Fuller world not a world that's constrained by our boundaries and our taxes and our highways. Thank you very much for being here. Peter Biello: Yeah. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. Give today. PublishedNovember 16, 2018 at 6:16 AM EST. So there is definitely no downward pressure by anyone. However, as far as I can tell theres no Deep State Conspiracy to cover up a breeding population of cougars in the Granite State. So I don't understand really how how this this idea came to be but it is the main reason why folks believe that fishing game is is covering up the fact that there are mountain lions in the state again with no evidence. So when we hear mountain lion there's also cougar there's wild cat there's Bobcat which is not a mountain lion maybe Patrick could you sort of spell out the different terms which are synonymous and which are completely different animals. So Michael follows with the question. But no proof was offered. Well I can't tell you what you saw. And I I have this great text history of New Hampshire game and fir bears and I think by Helen Silver who used to work for fish and game and she sort of I kind eyes this animal in one of the quotes from 1892 stating that the catamaran was the most ferocious of all the wild beasts of New Hampshire his great size strength and agility of movement together with his formidable weapons rendered him the terror both of man and beast. Sue Morse: The big cat really commands the utmost respect not so much fear but fascination. It doesn't make much sense because you know mountain lions are as we as we said before. There have been several sightings of mountain lions in New Hampshire recently. Peter Biello: Mm hmm. Caller: And then there's the Lily Pond Road and then there's a six foot tall fence. Anytime at any HP broad dot org or subscribe to our podcast search Apple podcasts Google Play or stitcher for an HP bar exchange. For starters, part of the confusion might come from the fact that the eastern cougar was taken off the endangered species list earlier this year. That's too big for Bobcat. The big cat has been extinct here since the mid-1800s. Peter Biello: Or send us an email exchange at an HP board. It's good to talk to you. Peter Biello: We at this e-mailed comment from Michael. So and so the idea that they can follow up on every individual sighting is just crazy right. Patrick Tate: Okay. Information that weed family automotive dot com sunny for today high temperatures low to mid 80s clear tonight overnight lows in the 50s tomorrow sunny highs in the upper 80s. So give us a call now. Caller: Hi. Do you want to see real, living mountain lions that do exist in New Hampshire. Well let's hear from from Sue Morse again science director for the organization keeping track. Get your tickets today and one for fifty dollars or six for 150 at NH PR and board. You saw what you saw. Do cougars live in New England? I'm Peter B yellow. It doesn't happen as much anymore. The great thing about pictures isn't the animal itself it's the background. Is there a way we can learn more about these dispersing mountain lions that may travel through the Granite State and that I would ask you certainly part about whether or not a he's spending too much time chasing down these kind of false leads or B would rather be doing something else that is more informative to whether or not we actually have or can prove that we have dispersing mountain lions in the state. So Marty can you see what I'm getting at is the public sees different names and thinks that they're different animals but it's all the same animal. But Absence of Evidence Is Not Evidence of Absence, Right? And still the the folks there did weren't able to come up with it with 100 percent certainty what deposited that scat. Mountain lions don't usually travel more than 100 miles from where they are born. Peter Biello: Let's talk to Ron and where Ron thanks very much for calling. Nicholas Handy can be reached at 924-7172 ext. Hunting is legal, but closely regulated by the state. So yeah as far as wildlife species that put deer and trees know there aren't any others that I know of that put deer in trees just just humans might be responsible for that. The number 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 so promised a discussion about conspiracy theories. Sam Evans-Brown: Certainly that is a thing I've heard but again you have to think of the incentives involved here. I tracked cats and all the western states. The views expressed in this program are those of the individuals and not those of an HP are its board of trustees or its underwriters. Someone's got to see one they're very secretive. Wildlife biologist breaks down mountain lion sightings in CT | New The species that once inhabited the Northeast, known as the eastern mountain lion, is now extinct. I mean no doubt a seen Bobcat seen his stuff.
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