However, if this message leaves you uneasy please do not feel pressured to reply. listen I am trying to get as much info as I can about this place. Erica, I was there too the night it got shut down, I was just talking to my dad and stepmom about it and what it was like that night. Christinas story, 2004 I had a friend that was there for 18 months the stories are absolutely terrifying and proof of a bigger problem especially seeing how none are in jail and after talking to a private investigator they are all either Zionist Jews or mormon mafia types they have multiple businesses and shadyness a plenty. Years later I live in D.C. More successful then any of those fucking clowns. I think about you sometimes and wonder how you are doing. Las pelculas estn ordenadas por gnero y por ao lo que hace que sea muy fcil de usar. The mental abuse we endured here is unreal.. especially when I tell my close friends the story of why I had disappeared during high school. Everything about that place was HELL. I have nightmare about this place all the time myself. I too remembering being able to talk to whoever, it becoming a complete shit show and people slowly leaving as their parents got them. We were sent to a place that had no business even existing. I hope Integrity house woman are still strong My parayers are with anyone who was ever behind those gates. CASA BY THE SEA (wwasps) IN. the stories go on and on! Justice fam!! I remember you bro. I'm sure this is a dead threat but just in case OP is still active, I went to Casa by the Sea July 2002-July 2003 and I'm . At its time of closure in 2004, the facility had 538 residents . studio mk27 completes 'casa vista' as a 60m-long volume. Life sure has taken us all in very different directions. I contacted them and made the arrangements, and that's pretty much it. . During his tenures at both Casa and Ivy Ridge, Jason was known for his harsh, strict, disciplinarian style. "So I went on the Internet and started searching around and found the Wwasp program. Juan too. Hope your doing as best as you can, Justin Meador here. y sin publicidad. Everything I read in this forum talks bad about the staff and hasnt got one positive thing to say. Aznbkoi, you are full of something, I wouldnt say its sh@t that youre full of or air. The dude who ran PV offered to let me go over there and bumped me back to level 4 and eventually I graduated and was on our student council etc. Or not being able to look outside the window for more than 3 seconds in fear of us trying to find an escape plan. I had a scholarship to usf. He is also responsible for upholding a facility in violation of many health codes and maintaining a lack of ethical standards of care for the students of CBS. And still every now and then. He also aided in some of the transportation to facility in my case. Cried like a baby. I would love to sue these people if they havent been murdered yet. At some point he was working in a public school, but currently Goulding reports to be coaching Little League Back in St. George, which is only about 20 miles away from the Cross Creek Property in La Verkin. Anyone who I knew wants to catch up send me a email. All the best to you. I try to find old friends from time to time, but I cannot seem to find anyone. Around 2003 he attempted to open a program called Bell Academy in California which was swiftly shut down due to licensing issues. I dont want any commentary about my parents on the site. Hi Everyone: Wondering if any of you could tell me what the name of the high school providing diplomas within Casa by the Sea was? Thank you everyone for writing about your story. Learn how your comment data is processed. I was at cbs for 22.5 months. Im an engineer now at 30 yrs old but that place fuels me along with the one in Carolina I was at for the rest of my two year stay. Im so sorry. Yes, abuse happens in prisons and jails, which is expected. I went to school since I was accepted at 17 prior to casa by the sea. Miguel Rodriguez and Ali Hernandez currently live in Ensenada Mexico. Several of my peers have told me about uncomfortable encounters with him; but, there is not enough evidence for any sort of enforcement from the Washington County School District. Your email address will not be published. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania : Ficha tcnica, estreno, todo sobre de la pelcula completa y dnde ver por Internet. I just found this out today. Says it all. I was beat up, sat on, food was so chewed up and spit in my mouth, etc. When I arrived home all my friends were still in high school. My daughter went there. Can anyone give me any information on how I can at least financially punish these guys for the abuse I went through? The problem is Casa By the Sea wasn't the only abusive school out there and WWASP, now Teen Revitalization, is only one of the Multi-Million dollar corporations that make up a The Troubled Teen Industry. Owner of Casa By The Sea and co-owner of High Impact. Got stabbed in the jaw with a fork by a staff member. I went to casa from August 1999 to April 2000. Mike chism, Dace Goulding also should be tortured to death. Rameys story, 1999 But the place was haunted that was the only thing that was scary other then that shit was easy gotta learn the system. True scumbags in every sense of the word. It didn't take me any time at all." Mrs. Reddoch, speaking by telephone . You forgot Michael Perry , he went there as a teen around 99-00. Miguel Rodriguez May 7, 2017 at 7:25 am. Heather, we were in there together. We were friends from home both sent there, I came like a month after her. so they laughed at me.. I turned 18 like 2 weeks later and was gonna take my 50$ and a ride to the boarder. I was only there for two months. I miss you and if youll let me I will be there for better or worse. Title Date Link Archive Tags Type; Turley - Wood vs WWASP: READ MORE [{'tag': 'Academy at Dundee Ranch'}, {'t and surviving literal torture during her confinement at Casa by the Sea, High Impact, and Tranquility Bay. . Rip allen michael darago i love you sweet heart. I was at CBS from 2002 to 2003 for about 6 months. The men took her across the border to Casa by the Sea, a private residential school and treatment center in Ensenada, Mexico, that mostly enrolled American youths with behavioral problems . . Brutal. The program made me into a self imploding ball of rage. . If casa was marketed to parents as a therapeutic help center, then abuse should never have existed in a program like that. Moridi.John@yahoo.com if you wanna email me! WWASPS stated that it was an umbrella organization of independent institutions for education and treatment of troubled teenagers. Period. The title may read "Ant-Man and the Wasp," but neither character really feels like the main protagonist. One of the two brothers (Hamilton may be there names, one was John) was cool with Arturo but Arturo hated me and John made a joke about me horse playing during Christmas fireworks and I was permanently dropped to journey family. Will never forget. big league money-grubbing concentration camp). HAHAHAHAHA, fuck you Donna. He has been accused of rape of a teenage girl and countless incidents of assault and battery. My mother had a drug problem . Hi. As Administrator at Casa by the Sea, Hallows participated in, ordered, endorsed, excused and covered up multiple incidents of abuse. I would love to find some of these workers from there that treated us the way we did. Either way knock it off with the buyers remorse. The man I am currently dating was held here for 2 years after he spent months in a Utah boys camp. Was in congeniality with you I can give witness testimony against slamming 12 year old boy, breaking his arm, LGBTQ abuse & rape, intentionaI food poisoning, .they are mormon MANIACS!!!!! You are the problem, these places wouldnt exist without total dumbfucks like yourself and my parents putting their kids in them. He has been struggling with all these years with drugs due to this degenerate Trane! Ridiculous. Ruff times. -Matty. If there is anyone out there that was there at this time comment and let me know I would love to talk to you. Feels like you are home- with the beach just steps away! Only get two meals a day in intervention with only water and something like a baked potato with nothin on it and rice and beans. I laugh when I see a 3 musketeers bar as I remember it being a treat if you didnt get any consequences for the week and was on good behavior to get this. I was too kidnapped by a man and women who came into my house to take me to Casa By the Sea as I know my parents didnt have the guts to tell me I was going away. There was a top floor that was all tile floors and just cut outs for windows. I was there from 2/22/02 to 6/30/03 I was there from September 27th 2002- to graduate July 8th 2004. Email anybody if you like. He was there between 2001-2003. "It all started when my son was born (10/07/84), him aging and me fermenting." In May of 2002 I had just about had enough of the lies, arguments and late night worries with our son. Nothing is perfect. Both programs were out of Mexico. If anyone knows how to get a copy of the HS diploma email me d_dawg09@yahoo.com, My husband endured 3 years at high impact in tecate. Its funny because I was also that guy that was ignored and discounted even among the other victims of casa. I was in that room a month and a half. What do you think we should/could have done? Darrington Academy was closed and criminal charges were pressed against Rich Darrington, for assault and battery of a minor. I think you were my big brother when I showed up there for the first couple days. My son was in this program and at Casa for a year, 2003-2004. Kayla, werent you pulled out by your parents? Mirina Bourbonnais, a survivor of three WWASP programs shares her perilous fight, literal and figurative, to survive the abuse she experienced before, during, and after the program. The whole place wasnt even built yet so I have no clue what you guys had to go through once everything was set up. Pintamos toda la casa y sin dejar caer una sola gota de pintura que no sea. In conclusion, this was a shitty expirience, the nightmares pass. May 7, 2017 at 6:59 am. some of the stories are fucking crazy and sad. Im sorry we had to go through it, feel free to contact me if you want to talk to someone who was there, just reply to this comment. Quizs realmente sea que Quantumania obtuvo el 70 por ciento para convertirse en la cinta que lo hizo peor y no dejarle tremendo ttulo a la historia protagonizada por Tom Holland. Let me know ok? Dace Goulding works at my school in souther utah at crimson cliff middle school he seems nice I had no idea he did this. U could have done lots of things you just are most likely square. I turned 15 in November 2001, 3 months later I was sent to Casa By the Sea and then in July of that year transferred to a "boot camp" called High Impact. Cold showers, force fed shit food, bearing gs, emotional and physical abuse. Either way, dude, you were an upper level? I feel for yall man. Mexico is like a kingdom if you speak Spanish and you like it hot. Dace Goulding, owner of Casa By the Sea and Jade Robinson . Hay opciones alternativas a Netflix y Amazon que no requieren ningn tipo de pago ni suscripcin y cuyo contenido es totalmente gratuito. WWASP (The World Wide Association Of Specialty Programs and Schools) is a "teen rehab" organization notorious for abuse, torture & coverup. I had dreams I was back, all kinds of nightmares after I got out. I went to sleep in what I would learn was the merit casa and when I woke up the next morning. WWASP Survivors is run by a dedicated group of concerned alumni of WWASP-affiliated programs. this sounds so tough and i cant imagine how difficult it mustve been for you. He was a dick in Samoa though. The 5 minute freezing cold showers, the horrible food, those tapes, never being able to speak to my mom. Im 35 years old now and Ive spent almost half a decade in jail or prison but this place was by far the worst time Id ever done anywhere in my entire life. Is bad that so young guys had to pass for this traumatic experience but for something were there.. Its their fucking entertainment. The truth about Casa By The Sea - A boarding school nightmare The infamous red gate casa by the sea entrance. Im so happy we are here to support each other. bc i promise you if i could over come it you can. I was in bold family 00-01 B#3. A brainwashing facility that benefit no childhood growth. hey guys. Allisons story, undated Casa By the Sea, Mexico (CLOSED) Cross Creek Programs, UT (Cross Creek Center for Boys and Cross Creek Manor for Girls) Darrington Academy, GA (CLOSED) Discovery - Mexico Dundee Ranch Academy - Costa Rica (CLOSED), there have been reports it has re-opened. You were one of my closest friends while I was there! I honestly didnt know there were this many kids who ensured the abuse that I did when I was there. Must be that low energy I always was getting feedback on. Nothing they could do to me could break me. Im sure you know, and Im sure thats why you said it. I heard some cases of guys that were in the Casa by the Sea, and really were scary storiesall very hard to believe. I hate to hear that others endured as much if not more abuse than me at this place. I was there a yr b4 being transferred to tranquility bay. I couldnt believe that my parents would send me somewhere where ever right was taken. March 1, 2016 at 5:48 am. Please email me if anyone has any questions or comments!! Point being is yea case sucked yea our parents should have never sent us there but man up get over it!! Hell. I was in prestige family. Non the less hang in their fellow soldiers since most of us dont have family,you must see who you are believe in yourself know you are good and just accept the bad and make the good. If you would be interested in sharing your story (anonymous of course) to contribute to a formal publication, it will be used to advocate for psychologically minded protocols- please contact me. The female I think youre talking about was helping us with our work out time outside. Taylor at "Tranquility Bay", a WWASP facility that was closed by Jamaican authorities. Because of the abuse allegations against that campus - completely unrelated in any way to the WWASP programs, the Mexican Government seized and closed ALL American campuses. I remember the seminars where we had one chance to convince them that we were changed and ready to go to next level. | Challenger: Summer 1989, The dream crusher: Casa by the Sea (Nothern Mexico) | Sren Hansens blog. Did 16 months. My son went Midwest Academy and told me of these horrible stories they did to him just recently! . Myless story, undated Belts and tennis shoes.girls wet themselves unable to ask or just go to the bathroom. The so called seminars were BS and brainwashing!! Maybe days passed, im not sure. I have a question for those of you who were sent to Casa. His blog makes me throw up in my mouth. The man who drove me began to place his hand on my thigh. Either way after all of that, seeing my mom each night fall over naked with her purse on her back, caring her in bed as she nodded in her food, my dad playing russion rulet, i had enough. It took me over a year just to get him to tell me about some of his experience. Robinson is the current owner and director of Horizon Academy, which was originally opened in the Amargosa Valley Nevada however is now re-opened on the Cross Creek Manor/ Cross Creek Center property, in La Verkin Utah (Owned by WWASP head, Robert . If anyone was in the courage family please reach out. Chelsea i love this site. First worked for Paradise Cove in Samoa. Justice then honor family here. I like to think I helped close the place down. Luke wasnt that bad to me he was pretty cool. Well written blog. Good Luck to everyone. These photos make my stomach turn so many unspeakable things happened behind those gates I cired until I threw up so many times. If it wasnt for my amazing husband now, it wouldve taken longer for me to start recovery. I forgot the counselors name but I remember people saying we had the best counselor who didnt talk to us like devil children. I have a few questions about active/open programs similar to the WWASP programs. Its a male version of a similar place at a different location everyone was allowed to speak English lol. Many allegations of physical abuse, maltreatment, sexual abuse and human rights violations have been reported by former students of Casa By the Sea. No one deserves this treatment regardless of their past. I think Arturo classified it as violence or physical intimidation. WWASP/WWASPS AFFILIATED PROGRAMS: . I hope true justice is served soon, as he does not deserve another breath on this planet. I say near because, with counseling and love, there is hope and healing for the survivors. There from 2000 to 2001. Heck, the Wasp barely does anything in the film, and even Scott only experiences a loose approximation of a character arc. By The Sea - Official Trailer (HD)In Theaters - November http://www.bytheseamovie.netWritten, directed and produced by Academy Award winner Angelina Jolie P. He said something I cant remember but it was phsyical. She said lay still and flat dont look around or draw attention to yourself. I have had a very fucked up life. Puedes ver la pelcula Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania (2023) gratis en r.xem-phim.live, no necesitas pagar . . Jade Robinson started his career in behavior modification as a staff member of WWASP's Cross Creek Manor in Utah. He is a Geography teacher for the ninth grade. Being conned by Casa! Qu es eso?", Nota: Por favor solo respuestas serias My fiance suffered 8 years in prison because of this nightmare. Rachelle we have an online facebook group also called WWASP Survivors for people to support each other and be among others who know the things you cant even put into words. Jennifers story, 2001 By Chelsea Filer. Disfruta ver desde tu casa Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania pelicula completa en espaol 2023 sin registrarse. We got one still brainwashed over here! I found the program, as descibed in Comeback, to be essentially similar to what I experienced as a parent at Casa by the Sea. Hardest time of my life. Casa By the Sea in Ensenada, Baja California, Mexico, The Casa By the Sea facility is currently for sale, American Child, Mexican Prisoner Casa by the Sea, Carly, The worse experience of my life Melanie, 1999, The lessons I learned at CBS Sarah, 1999, Youth Foundation Closed | WWASP Survivors, Youth Foundation Success Academy CLOSED | WWASP Survivors, Share this link! Majestic Ranch Academy operated under the WWASP franchise. We did contact the school district several years ago with our stories and evidence, but got nowhere. Heather, we were in there together. Its scary to think about what that place did to us, what ways our personalities were altered. Do you endorse the abuse and torture of a child? Many outside observers believe, however, that the WWASPS . I had just endured 2 years in friggen hell from Paradise Cove in Samoa. After being accused of child abuse , neglect, and rap. Not to mention she always came in with no panties and a dress on lol. I hate WWASP Programs and I think all of them should burn to the ground, never to be rebuilt again, and the founders and supporters . Justice family. Looking to reconnect with some others that were there when I was. I want to sue this organization! Lol I always thought the shit they tried to teach was bullshit. It was definitely a giant nightmare, and I cannot honestly say it has ended. Just post a reply to it with Delete this one or something. WE have contact with,72 others, is someone going to form a class action because. He was only 14 at the time. Is there still a lawsuit for this piece of shit place? Ver Pelculas Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Online Gratis en espaol, Latino, Castellano y Subtitulado sin registrarse. "From 2002-2004 I was in Casa By The Sea (WWASP). She said former students from WWASP schools regularly contact . It just sometimes takes us time to login and approve them . They were tripping on mushrooms or acid, apparently when a person trips they have a laughing phase???? Bens story, 2003 Are you in a witness protection program now? Our parents were informed to come get us and I had to wait a day or two until my name was called. After this, he promptly moved across the border to Nevada and opened Horizon Academy. My close friend was in that fucked up program. I was actually on the honor roll, varsity tennis player, I played piano, flute, and cello and did many more productive things. If I come some up the entire experience in one word, I would say abuse. It was bad. My father blocked out memories of this place. Lower level esteem family and made it to level 6 right before graduation. Tuition and fees at Casa by the Sea run about $30,000 a year, half of what some United States-based programs cost. He first worked for WWASP at Cross Creek in 1991 and 1992. I believe this program saved my sons life and he thanked me many times for placing him in this program. In 2012 Cross Creek and Horizon merged to create Youth Foundation Success Academy, which voluntarily closed in 2013. GitHub export from English Wikipedia. My dad said this is not a good environment for you and i agreed and this casa place was recommended by a bad guy but in my dads defense the video for this place looked like a gd damn resort. Ran into someone years back that said there was a class action suit against casa. The morning was a blur but after lunch was PE. Yes this place was exactly what everyone says it was. That was a few months before it got shut down. Captivity By The Sea Chelsea F. Nonetheless feel free to contact me. Then we bounced before the lower levels got there. I dont want the woman to hate me for speaking up but I cant just not do anything! I wonder if we ever met in seminar? I just cant keep seeing this woman every Sunday knowing that her poor daughter is suffering the way we all had. Imagine HIgh Impact for EVERYBODY. Just because u went to prison dont mean people went effected by the lrograms. I was at Casa by the sea May 1999-May 2000. and this one Rachelle Rosenthal Says: Casa by the Sea, breaking code silence, troubled teens, WWASP, boarding school. Ashleys story, 2004 It was closed in 2004 by the police in Mexico on a day where the government decided to clean up in a number of illegal run When I finally rejoined the main group four days later, I was still visibly beaten up. I can not believe that none of staff members are not in jail. Thats all you are. Chelsea Filer Obviously a criminal client recommend it and since he could do it for free due to his job he had no problem convincing me it was a beautiful school in California. Carmel-by-the-Sea, California, Estados Unidos | 2 Cama 2 Bao Casa Venta | $729,000 - Beautifully remodeled 2 bed /2 bath end unit. As I write this Im pretty sure we had the first seminar together and I remember sitting in the hall doing homework with you. I had a friend who went to Casa. Casa by the Sea was also shut down in 2004 citing issues with CBS operating an illegitimate pharmacy. Arturo was a pic of shit. Just because you didnt see it, or may somehow justify it, doesnt mean it didnt happen. Anyways yep. Following the raid, 17 students at ALA were extradited to the U.S. after they found to be in Mexico without proper travel or residency documents. They had came from bell academy his name was Ryan her name escapes me. It just stuns me that parents would just pack there kids up and send them to Mexico just off the word of a 1800 number and a brochure. I had a fever of 102. If he kept on the path he was living at 17, and didnt attend CASA and Spring Creek he may not be alive today. She would forget i told her i was going out with friend, locked me out of the house i went for a drive, pulled over stepped out of my car and i was rapped (great way to loose my virginity) and thrown in my trunk by a man in the military who said over and over im going to kill you and dump you and your car in a lakeI got away went home bloody pounding on all doors finally got in the house. You want to study trauma like the others and myself have endured? Worst of all I was a very good teenager . Im pretty sure I was there with you too. Police in Mexico have shut down three WWASP-linked facilities: Sunrise Beach (1996), Casa By The Sea (2004) and High Impact (where police videotaped the teens chained in dog cages). It was marketed as a co-ed Residental Treatment Center for troubled teenagers primarily with behavioral issues. He was so abusive verbally and physically! I want to expose WWASP for what it is and does. And actually graduated. I still have crazy bad dreams about this place. I have seen alot and experienced alot of tramautizing events that I will never forget in those 16 months. My heart goes out to the WWASP Survivors. Every hour or so they let you stretch or use the restroom. Terrified and numb not knowing where I was and unable to speak Spanish to get an answer from anyone who would talk back when I spoke to them. Gustavo and Miguel Rodriguez deserve to burn in hell. I went thru hell there, and I didnt even make friends. It opened in 1998. I will write a book one day about the things that happened here. Is anyone actively checking this site still? Anyway, the first group of 10 at Casa was all upper levels from Samoa and Jamaica in transition. It sounds like you made the choice to become a hardened criminal. I was smoking pot and failing school before I went. I was at Casa by the Sea 2004 and was there until it was closed down where i was transferred to Carolina Springs in South Carolina. The Troubled Teen Industry is a global term for any privately owned teen detention facility, (some that accept government grants), that . Would look a lot better with a more complete history of his doings on there but I cant stand fb anymore. Daniparham2014@outlook.com. Correction, Casa By the Sea was closed down due to allegations against a different American School Campus located in Mexico. I was abused in ways I only talk with my therapist about. He ended up killing 3 people just one year after he left. But places like casa are unregulated torture chambers that do near permanent damage to a person for life. Is this Miguel? So in order to hide this secret she hid me in Mexico. Got out and got into drugs. Finally someone from casa came said get your stuff we are dropping you at the border. Ivy Ridge was closed in 2009. then as i type i rush just to get it out. Those horrific programs paved the way to a future of drug abuse, the abuse that eventually led to the position he is now. He is going to be 27! . All my horrifying experiences here were due to my mother and her abusive husband. In answer to high impact. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I had the same kinds of dreams for years and years Where you wake up heart pounding and realize youre not there. Survivor Testimony of High Impact Tecate Mexico 2002. Rgalabiz86@gmail.com. 7 Likes, 1 Comments - Altosa Mobiliario (@altosamobiliario) on Instagram: "Que tu trabajo sea ms productivo con la nueva silla de oficina Alba, ideal para trabajar en casa u" Ultimately, her deep desire to find wholeness . Its like parents just cant believe that horrible places for kids exist!!! They put you in a room where you sit all day on the floor in structure staring at the wall with a staff member behind you. This is a sequel far more interested in characters like Kang and Michelle Pfeiffer . My name is David Bush, I was there most of 99, I cant remember what family I was in but I remember having to stand nut to butt, flying death, despair, r&r, sleeping in the hallway and Jason roughing me up one time. Wowdoes this bring me back memories of CASA. People can only understand so much of what we had gone through than those who had to live through it day after day. Does anybody remember right before casa closed when we got a new administrator and his wife did the girls side work outs? No backsies and I can only hope your son grows to hate you in the same way Ive grown to hate my own mother. Operated by World Wide Association of Specialty Programs and Schools (WWASP), a Utah-based organization founded in 1998 and controlled by Robert Lichfield, Casa by the Sea was shut down in 2004 by Mexican authorities due to substantiated claims of child abuse. Dace is now a Female Track Assistant Coach at Dixie State University. 4 de enero de 2023 en cines / 1h 42min / Terror, Suspense. I was at Casa during the time of its shutdown (2004) and then went to Academy at Ivy Ridge. Casa By the Sea. i mean i hated the place itself but at the same time i think it helped me figure out the kind of person i wanted to be. I will give yall credit if you want. was there from march 10 2002 till may 8th 2003 never forget the hell i went through there i was in the boys group loyalty. At age 15 I was kidnapped while sleeping and taken to a WWASP program in Montana. Dace Goulding Yea well, I only wish the whole western world could understand the philosophy taught in there. Hi Lacey, I just found this site today. Respect then beacon for me. Who remembers the R & R room with the white tile floors. I was also here in 2002 and i still have the worst memories. Was there from 1999-2002. Luke was the worst!! Theres a seminar phrase that applies here (ironically): Lying to yourself and believing it.. One of the hosts is a survivor of the TTI. I started out at Casa by the Sea in Ensenada, Mexico. I spent 22 months at Casa by the Sea, just outside Ensenada, Mexico. If you have not seen, they made a movie called COLDWATER. I was there 13 years ago for 14 months. Raise awareness of the true nature of WWASP Programs, to advocate for those still being held in Troubled Teen programs, and to provide validation and support to survivors of WWASP programs. They made me and other male kids shave our legs and wear dresses one time too and it was fucking weird but he had to act all happy and like we were accepting the program.
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